There is a mantra floating around, particularly among white supremacists, white nationalists and similar racist ilk, that by saying you're anti-racist, you're somehow also anti-white, with the conspiracy theory that the real bigots are actually the anti-racists.
Apart from racial superiority being a retarded concept as it is, it also ignores the simple fact that many white people are also anti-racist. So do all white people who hate racism hold some kind of bigotry against their own ethnicity? Additionally, the mantra also ignores the existence of racists from other ethnicities. (E.g. black and Asian supremacists.) The only reason I can see this mantra gaining some ground in the first place is because of so-called "anti-racists" who bash white people like the plague, because they're apparently what's wrong with everything in the goddamn world, past and present.
Yeah, i've heard this bullshit before and it made me want to reach through the screen and strangle whoever said it. It's as if they are being oppressed because we won't tolerate their racial discrimination.
I'm black. I've heard numerous racist comments against white people amongst my black relatives (which is weird considering I also have relatives who are white). When I try to point out that being racist against white people is just as bad as being racist against black people, I get ignorant responses. "It's not racism if it's against white people!" "White people deserve the hate for enslaving black folks and keeping blacks down." XD How does that make any sense whatsoever?! I remember an amazing speech by Bill Cosby (who got silenced for it) in which he was saying that black people need to take responsibility for their actions and quit blaming the white man for their lack of education/rise in crime rate/rise in welfare dependence/mortality rates/lack of financial success/etc. This whole "hate the white man" (sorry it's usually "man") is counter productive. People like Jackson and Sharpton are the ones keeping the black people down by telling them that they are victims and the world (well really the white man) owes them everything. I'm sorry but I'm of the belief that you have to work to reach your goals. The world owes you nothing. Just because you're born a certain color (or gender for that matter) doesn't make you special or entitled to anything really. Specifically, I personally believe they should abolish racial scholarships. Make all scholarships financial, athletic, volunteer, or academic based. I remember reading an article about a young white teen male who applied to any and all scholarships (I don't think his parents could help him with college tuition). He did very well academic wise and won a TON of the scholarships including a Martin Luther King Jr one. If I'm remembering the story right, the scholarship wasn't necessarily blacks only but it was expected for a black person to win. That kid basically got shamed into giving up a scholarship he worked hard to earn just because of the color of his skin. Martin Luther King Jr would have been ashamed if he saw that. In 4th grade, I did a year long project studying the life of Dr. King. I can say for absolute certainty (even though of course I never met the man) that if the races were reversed with white people being oppressed and discriminated against then Dr. King would have fought for the rights of the white people. He had a dream that both white and black people can get along in society. Sorry for rambling but when I saw this stamp I got on my soap box. Oh and another annoying thing that my relatives would do was to try to shame me for conducting myself like an educated person (I went to a private middle school, high school, and college so yeah I'm rather over-educated regarding academics). I've been a nerd since I was a child but I learned not to lord that over people. I hate insufferable know-it-alls because I try my damned hardest not to be that guy. Anyway, I remember one time when I was a child they said things like "why are you reading like a white person?" or "you talk like you're white!" Umm yeah that's an insult to black people everywhere to insinuate that using correct grammar, enunciating, and overall speaking in an eloquent manner is exclusively a "white person thing." smh. Racism is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. However, I'm not a saint (I won't be throwing rocks in a glass house)so I will admit that I have my own prejudices/judgments to work on (and yes, I'm working on it!). I also won't claim to know the grand solution to how we as a society of multi-colored human beings can learn how to accept each other unconditionally. I think a good start is what you're doing by creating these discussion sparking stamps that spread awareness of this issue.
People just don't seem to understand that concept. Yes, white on black racism is still a large issue today, but to turn it around and hate all white people is just as bad. If we are ever going to move into the future all of us, black, white, and any other races, need to get over our differences and realize we are all human and we are all equal. Some try to justify the hate by bringing up slavery. But that was something out ancestors did to each other. Hell, for that matter, I am white, but my family and my country never had anything to do with slavery. Im Ukrainian Canadian. It was Western Europe and the US that were involved in colonialism and slavery and such. So it really pisses me off when I'm included in the white hate thing. And I know there are people who would call this opinion racist. *sigh*. Anyway, I cannot express how happy I am that there are others who share in my opinion.
Thank you. And yes, I completely agree with you. People seem to term racism against whites as "reverse racism" but racism is racism. That's a fact. People who look at a white person (who might be Ukrainian Canadian like yourself) and automatically think "they are a racist because they are white!" Well first off, that thought in & of itself is racist against white people. Second, it's a very "black & white" way of looking at the world if you equate every white people with being racist and equate every black people with being victims of racism. This world is not "black & white" by any means. There are shades of gray in ideas. There are shades of pink, yellow, brown in people. I agree with you that we earthlings differ in appearance but we are equal.
Thank you for being a real human being, and not some whiny "the world owes me-" kind of person who believes they're entitled because of past sins done by people who are no longer alive to people who are no longer alive.
Seriously, I think people who justify racism against the whites by bringing up slavery and even segregation are using an illogical argument. (honestly, there were a lot of black slavers but people tend to forget that) Why, as a black female, should be entitled to get money, food stamps, medicaid, etc. from the whites just because of what happened in the past? Yes, the past shouldn't be forgotten but it shouldn't be looming over our heads like some omnipresent shadow. I am not a victim of the past (especially a past I didn't live though). This constant dwelling on the past is holding people (yes, black & white) back from going forth into the future. Black people have access to a good education (and eventual high paying careers) if they choose to pursue it and work hard to achieve it. Why should schools lower their academic standards to accommodate them? Why should the government hand them freebies? I went to a private middle/high school because my single mom worked 2-3 jobs to put me there and I got every scholarship, grant, loan to pay for my college on my own. Even if you don't have the means to get to private school, we have the internet and libraries. (there are slaves who risked their lives teaching themselves how to read and write so there's no excuse) Motivate yourself (I don't mean "you" per se but people in general) to learn different subjects. Invest in your own education. Work hard to achieve whatever career you feel the most complete in. Yes, it's not easy. Yes, it takes time. And sorry for ranting on & on.
Work hard, and good things will come from it. Words to live by.
Truth be told, something that people tend to forget is that there were white slaves too. Just ask the Irish. I never hear them complain about their past treatment being the cause for the problems they face today. Just goes to show that black people don't have a monopoly on suffering from slavery.
Yeah I completely agree. Some people would much rather be a victim than take personal responsibility. Doing the right thing and taking the easy route are typically incompatible. I think society does a good job in convincing people that we are entitled to an easy life (wealth & success). Honestly, I think the original 'American (and this shouldn't be exclusively American) dream' ideal of working hard to achieve your goals and blaming yourself for failure is long gone. It's a shame really.
I've been noticing comments about this "white genocide" recently over the years. Mainly a while after the cheerios made the "just checking" commercial. The comments on yahoo were just disgusting from all the racist comments from all races.
"This isn't accurate.For a white women to date a black guy they should have made her 400 pounds,5 kids in her trailer,and the dad would be either gone or beating her." "Why do so many black guys think their to good for black women?" I'm really good with not losing my temper on ignorant people but after reading comments like that and worse I never wanted to punch so many people in my life.
When being anti-racist is the default assumption in polite society, the fact that one feels an irrepressible need to prove that one is not a racist often insinuates unresolved hostility issues with the majority demographic and/or the preeminent culture associated with it.
"particularly among white supremacists, white nationalists and similar racist ilk"
Actually, the majority do not fit into any of these categories. I know quite a few non-white people who also believe that "anti-racist" is a codeword for "anti-white." And then most white people I know who believe this are not supremacists or nationalists of any kind, let alone racist. This is quite the big assumption.
Just because someone CLAIMS to be anti-racism doesn't mean they actually are. And that's actually the point of them making that claim. Further, those who CLAIM to be anti-racism sure spend a ton of time demonizing white people. But that's just been my experience.
I think it's safe to assume that there are exceptions to every rule, but that doesn't make a certain statement any less true.
Obviously not everyone who claims to be against racism actually is. Just like not everyone who claims to be against intolerance is actually tolerant. You can't forget the hypocrites... they don't let you.
But not everyone who says they are against racism is going around demonizing white people either...
In the stamp description, I think it is summed up nicely. She's not saying everyone is going to fit into the categories she provides as an example. That doesn't make the example any less true.
To sum my long ramble up: The group "Anti-Racists" has both good and bad people within it.
"I think it's safe to assume that there are exceptions to every rule, but that doesn't make a certain statement any less true."
But then the person making the claim about what the rule is versus the exceptions has to prove that the group they /think/ is the rule is /actually/ the rule and not the exception.
"Obviously not everyone who claims to be against racism actually is. Just like not everyone who claims to be against intolerance is actually tolerant. You can't forget the hypocrites... they don't let you."
Yes, but are the hypocrites the majority, or are the non-hypocrites the majority?
"But not everyone who says they are against racism is going around demonizing white people either..."
Again, but is it the /rule/ that they do, or is that the exception?
"To sum my long ramble up: The group "Anti-Racists" has both good and bad people within it."
Indeed, but that can make the persons statement false. Because in quite a few cases I've seen, yes, it is indeed a code word for anti-white.
But that's where discernment comes in. And I'm pretty sure many people lack that.
Okay. Observational findings aren't the same thing as statistical findings, and as this would be quite hard to get an accurate result on because people can say whatever they want about themselves, it would a lot of trouble to go to for just finding out which is the majority and which is the minority.
Maybe the stamp should say, "Anti-Racist SHOULD NOT be a code word for Anti-White".
The very concept itself, Anti-Racism, suggests that one is opposed to racism. It in itself cannot be a code word for Anti-White, as the concept of Anti-White is racist in nature.
However, it can be used as a code word for Anti-White, or anything else, for that matter. Just because some use it so does not make it so.
"Okay. Observational findings aren't the same thing as statistical findings, and as this would be quite hard to get an accurate result on because people can say whatever they want about themselves, it would a lot of trouble to go to for just finding out which is the majority and which is the minority. "
...Observational findings are actually better than statistical findings. Because there's a lot of opportunity for falsehood in statistics that are derived from questionnaire methods.
"The very concept itself, Anti-Racism, suggests that one is opposed to racism. It in itself cannot be a code word for Anti-White, as the concept of Anti-White is racist in nature."
In actuality, people can use and change words to mean whatever they want, whenever they want. The word "literal" used to mean "actually, really" etc., now it can be used as a figure of speech by which to emphasize something. Meaning: the word now means something that it shouldn't mean or that contradicts what it used to mean.
"It depends on how the hypothetical observational study was done..."
...by definition, observational studies are done by observing. Observing the subjects as they go about in their "natural habitat" so to speak. It's especially effective if they don't know that they are being watched by someone who is specifically doing a study.
"Just identifying as anti-racist does not automatically make the person who identifies as such also anti-white."
Neither does it also make them automatically /not/ anti-white.
It is also more effective when one is able to do such a study more than once with more than one group of subjects, and considering how other factors may play a role, such as, for example, location. Being the only one making such a study, it would be difficult for you to conduct such a study in different locations to see if your results agreed or not.
I did not say it automatically made them not anti-white. Logically, the inverse of my statement would of course also be true, but jumping to a conclusion either way really wouldn't change the outcome, except for how you perceived said person.